The Last Nephilim

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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

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  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  It's not working or I'm clicking the wrong thing. Just above the Subject line I have little icons;
  a light bulb
  a tiny note
  a thumbs down
  a thumbs up
  a red circle with an X in it
  a yellow triangle with an ! in it
  a speech balloon with an i in it
  a speech balloon with a ? in it
  and a blue circle with an i in it, which is the one I just tried twice.
  Which is it?
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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  The Last Nephilim

  Maybe this?
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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  Like this?
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  Questioning the 144K

  by OMG! Now What? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been considering the teachings of the 144k by the borg and am wondering why they allow women to partake especially considering revelation 14:4 which pretty much says the 144k are men who are virgins.

  have any of you given this any thought?.

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  Rev 14:4 doesn't say that it refers specifically to males, and besides, cannot a woman defile herself with another woman? Nevertheless, as Must obey! pointed out, the language is considered symbolic, and the "woman", if I'm not mistaken, stands for false religion, just as the "harlot" does. If you cross reference Rev 14:4, it leads you to other verses such as James 4:4 which refer to having "friendship with the world" etc... So it seems to indicate that the 144k are ones who were never part of organized false religion. This, however, begs the question of "What about Brother So&so who used to be Catholic but is now of the anointed?" We have such an anointed brother in my cong- used to be catholic. Interesting indeed!
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  Growing a Beard: Reaction from JWs

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
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  hey there,.

  how have jws reacted to a fellow member who decides to grow a beard?

  i'm speaking of the brothers (unshaven).. thanks,.

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  marmot- "kinda like a lion eating the cubs so he can wipe out all genetic lineage of his predecessor."
  
  I could be mistaken, but I thought the point of a lion killing off the predecessor's cubs was to put the pride back in heat? If the lionesses have cubs, they don't go into heat and the lion doesn't get any, which is the whole reason he ran his predecessor off in the first place!
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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  Honesty- I don't have a clue what you're talking about! I don't see a ghost looking thing or a smiley face! Sorry!
  
  moomanchu- Yes, you have to order it from the literature counter. It's not something they keep "in stock".
  
  I-74- Thanks for the direction! I'll use that response to blow the PO off when he asks about it again.
  
  Velta- Thanks, I'll be keeping my eyes open for a purple one as well as those other publications. I'm also looking for an old copy of the Diaglott, no longer in print.
  
  JMalik- Thanks.
  
  tijkmo- Stumping THIS PO is difficult. I wish you could meet him... sort of...
  
  TD- The point about the original Greek text saying THE God of me was that JWs commonly use the reasoning that although called "a god" or "godlike" or "Mighty God", Jesus is never referred to as "Almighty God" or "THE God". In this instance it seems to prove otherwise. The text does not say that Thomas simply said the words, it states that he said the words TO Jesus.
  
  Is it because I use Mozilla Firefox that I don't see a way to quote other people's posts?
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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  His Aposta Radar went ballistic when he saw the KIL in your possession because he knows that it is the first step to 'apostasy' for a JW.
  
  That's news to me! I never really thought about it that way but I guess it makes a bit of sense. Is this something that many have experienced or is this just Honesty's experience?
  
  BTW, how do I quote someone else's post? I can't figure out how...
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  Growing a Beard: Reaction from JWs

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey there,.

  how have jws reacted to a fellow member who decides to grow a beard?

  i'm speaking of the brothers (unshaven).. thanks,.

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  I just grew a goatee and only a young brother, whom I see every day at work, has said anything about it. In the spirit of the worldly guys we work with who like to tease each other about every little thing, he told me that it doesn't grow out evenly and so it makes me look like a 15 year- old trying to grow facial hair. I just laughed and said, "Well, my wife thinks it's cute and there's nothing wrong with it biblically, so..." Not another word has been said about it!
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  I just stumped our PO!!!

  by The Last Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!

  he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?

  ) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.

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  The Last Nephilim

  I have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!! He and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and I because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for Dec. He went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off Jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know God won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?) He gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just WHAT he's teaching that's questionable. I swear I think he could convince someone that a turd would be healthy to eat!
  Anyway, he saw the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures on my desk and inquired as to what I was doing with it. I told him I was looking up something that a potential study had pointed me to in this very publication. He asked what, so I told him that this person had argued that even this book, published by the WTS, admitted the deity of Christ because in John 20:28 (in the Greek)- "Answered Thomas and he said to him The Lord of me and the God of me".
  Well, when I quoted it he didn't believe me that it said "THE God of me", so I showed him and his response was, "...huh... that's interesting!" He asked me what I'd found in my research (to refute that, obviously) and I told him I hadn't gotten into it yet so he wanted me to let him know what I find, and then immediately suggested a keyword search for "Trinity" in the WT Library CDROM. I told him I had Strong's Dictionary of Greek & Hebrew words I intended to use for my research. I wonder if the Sept 07 KM Question Box popped into his mind at that moment!? At any rate, all he could say at that point was how it was good to do research on those kinds of things because it not only helps the ones we're witnessing to, but it helps us build our own faith. I was thinking, "Indeed it does..."
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  Disfellowshipping Rules

  by LadyCCC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so surprised about the latest new light about the generation, i was wondering if the views about how to treat a disfellowshipped person have changed over the years.

  this would be quite interesting to find out if there are some old publications that someone may have as proof

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  The Last Nephilim

  Back when CT Russell was stil in charge, this was the "society's" view;
  
  "If some did not care to work in harmony with the Society thus constituted, that would be their privilege; yet that would not mean that there should be any ill feeling, nor that such should be disfellowshipped... If others see it in a different way, that is their privilege. There should be full liberty of conscience."
  
  Of course, this applies only to not going along with the WTS and not to committing sins such as sexual immorality.